The Next Step. The Complex Post.


For the past two years, I’ve become pretty obsessed with music blogging while also doing this whole “school” thing. As graduation got closer and closer, the prospect of a full-time job and the inevitable slipping of Pigeons and Planes hung over my head like a giant black cloud pissing rain while shooting bolts of lightning at my passion.

I’ve been constantly seeking out ways to continue P&P while working full time. The ideas ranged from outlandish to straight up ridiculous. I even considered seeing if my mental health issues could possibly warrant a diagnosis of insanity and some kind of government check. Then I thought, “Man, that idea is so crazy that maybe I really am insane.” Then I ate my goldfish and spent the day roaming the streets with no pants on and having conversations with myself about Bobby Fischer and Charles Hamilton.

The most realistic option seemed to be selling P&P and letting other people run with it. I hated the idea, but there are points in your life when you realize that you’re chasing dreams that are moving faster than you are. At this point in my life, I couldn’t possibly dedicate the time and effort it takes to run a blog like P&P and also make enough money to survive, especially in New York City.

Over the short life of P&P, we’ve been steadily growing, getting better at what we do, developing an amazing following of some of the coolest and most loyal people around, building relationships, and earning a reputation as a trusted source for music. The blog has opened a lot of doors and created a lot of great opportunities, but this next step might be the best thing to ever happen to us (besides maybe the time Lindsay Lohan Tweeted about us).

One of those doors that has been opened is the door into Complex. The relationship between P&P and Complex started when we joined the Complex Media Network. A month or so before graduation, I approached them about a job, thinking that if I can’t do P&P full time, the next best thing is to try to work at another outlet that I’ve been a fan of for years. I’m not just kissing ass. Ask anyone I’ve known for years – I’ve always got a Complex in my backpack.

So I went into their offices a few times, we had a few meetings and discussions, and it seemed like a job at Complex was a good fit and a realistic option. I did, however, voice my disappointment that I’d have to step down from Pigeons and Planes. After mentioning that and wrapping things up, I took the the elevator down and was walking through the lobby when I got a text from EB:

“Noah wants you to come back up to his office.”

I had no idea what to expect. As a music fiend and longtime Complex fan, Noah is like a rock star to me. I’m already a pretty nervous, anxiety-ridden person who doesn’t deal well with uncertainty. Riding that elevator back up, my head boiling over with thousands of tiny question marks, was the longest elevator ride of my life.

I get into his office and Noah says, “What if you could work here full time and also form a partnership between Pigeons and Planes and Complex so you could run the blog from our office?” It was one of those “Oh, shit” moments in my life that I’ll never forget. My knee-jerk response was, in fact, “Oh, shit.” Pretty much everything I wanted, neatly laid out on a platter in front of me.

So here we are. This isn’t just some time-consuming hobby to obsess over anymore. I have a full time job in the Complex office, and part of that job is running P&P. Plus, now I’ve got some of the best people in the game to help develop the site and provide the resources and technical knowledge that I’ve always been hopelessly lacking.

I don’t use the term “a dream come true,” because most of my dreams involve Lykke Li and some strange things that probably aren’t legal and will surely never come true, but this whole arrangement is the realization of everything I’ve been hoping for during the past year – a chance to do what I love.

Thank you to everyone who has supported P&P, everyone who has contributed to its growth, and everyone who made it possible to get to this point. It means more than you know, and I am full of more appreciation than I can express through a blog post. Instead of this being the “Okay, I got a job, things are probably going to start slowing down around here” post that I’ve been dreading, this is the “Things are about to get even better” post. Just watch. Good talk – see you out there. Pigeons and Planes.

  • kyle

    amazing. im so glad everything worked out for you. love it. keep on, keep on truckin’.

  • ThatGuyOverThere

    Congrats. It was a matter of time. There’s a reason why Pigeons and Planes is one of my four homepages.

  • Schmeed

    thats fucking awesome man, congrats! been pigs & planes since the early days bro keep up the good work!

  • Adam

    Fucking awesome to hear that man, congrats.

  • Liz

    Congrats man, can’t think of anyone more deserving. I have to say as a Complex superfan myself, I am uber green jello.

  • Zechmann

    Got hacked a couple days back too – had to be on the phone all night to make sure most of my shit could get recovered… not gonna lie, had an awe(shit) moment there.

    Great story, by the way. You hit jackpot, but earned it!

  • chris

    Congratulations! Totally jealous of the opportunity.

  • Mikacha

    Con! This is awesome news. Live your dreams, dude!

  • Ally

    Wow, congratulations. This makes me, and I’m sure everyone else, even more proud to say that I’m a fan and reader of Pigeons and Planes. You deserve it, Confusion.

  • The Incomparable Shakespeare

    As someone that has literally witnessed the growth of the site and also had the honor of being posted here, I’m genuinely happy for you and proud too. Keep doing the damn thing homie!!! Uno

  • Noory

    WELL THE FUCK DONE! so glad to hear this! you deserve everything you get for all the hard work you’ve put into this site. might sound weird but when I read that they offered you that job, I got the same feeling you get when the the most amazing girl says yes when you ask her out.. fucking awesome

    Pigeons&Planes FTFW

  • Magnus

    Con for President!

  • Sapphic Owl

    FUCK YEAH. Good on you Con. Sapphic O & P&P all day.

  • trillbau

    CONgratulations. You are the man, I’m pumped to hear that P&P lives on.

  • Frank Ramz

    MotherFuckingSwag!! P&P All Day!!

  • Justin

    That is amazing! You made me think I had to say goodbye to a good friend. Now, it’s like my friend won the lottery and we get to play games in his mansion. :D

  • Qtip

    Congrats man!!! Ever since I found this site my music knowledge and overall enjoyment of music has grown through the roof. Keep Doing what your doing and thanx for all the time and effort.

  • DRM

    Good work, dude

  • Brandon Shamah

    Congrats, you’re the fucking man. This site is the fucking tits. That is all.

  • rami

    best music blog out there!

  • J.Taylor

    Keep doing your thing. The passion you put into this site and into music is reciprocated full circle to all the people, like me, who check this site everyday, every week or every month. Thanks for what you do!!

  • Spencer


    we did it!

  • Indepanda

    Wow. This is crazy. Congrats to you, man. I’ve been following you for one year now, my friend ANDRRE got one or two posts on your site and I think what you do is truly amazing. Keep on working for what you love. This is great.

  • great 8

    My dream is simply to have a job that I love doing, so it’s nice to see that it does happen. Congrats confusion, this is very inspirational.

  • Kelli

    Wow…inspiring to see you get those dreams accomplished! great blog – can’t see what’s to come. congrats!

  • Kelli

    Wow…inspiring to see you get those dreams accomplished! great blog – can’t wait to see what’s to come. congrats!

  • Kudzilla

    COnfusion 4 PRez. 2012 holla

  • EM

    Congrats Con!! You truly do deserve this, without you and P&P, my appreciation for music would forever never be the same. Your passion for this blog and music itself, is extraordinary. Thank you and Congrats!

  • BC

    First of all congrats! I’ve been following the blog since

    late 2008/early 2009. I’m glad to see it finally paid off,

    literally! Sounds cheesy but as a fellow marketing graduate

    it gives me a lot of hope if and when I start my own

    business/brand whatever, I’ll be successful.

  • infinite

    good shit Confusion, good shit

  • gk

    dude this shit made me so fucking happy. good luck con you deserved this. pigeons flying higher than planes.

  • CK

    First of all, I’m not exaggerating at all when I say I think you deserved this more than anyone else, period, Con. Congratufuckinglations. This is so awesome and happy and exciting, I think it got a little dusty in this room when I finished reading the post. God damn ceiling dust. Everything eventually runs its course, but P&P definitely has many things left to do, so I’m so so happy that it’s head was just removed from the chopping block (honestly, I would’ve the site more-or-less dead if someone had taken over). No one has your writing touches and your irreverent sense of humor that manages to sneak itself into almost every post. I will keep visiting hopefully every day for the foreseeable future.

    P&P till I die.

    PS: I clicked on everyone’s links who congratulated Con just cause I was so happy. Website hits for everyone!

  • Justin Taylor

    This is some crazy news Cons, and it couldn’t have happened to a cooler dude. Huge congratulations on this man, can’t wait to see what it brings about for P&P and it’s followers like myself. Being one of the people who’s been following P&P for about 3 years now, I’ve got to say it’s like watching a child grow up or some cliche metaphor like that. Regardless, can’t fucking wait.


  • JJ

    This is one of those success stories that just doesn’t happen in real life, congratulations man! I’ve never even spoken to you, but as a longtime reader it feels like a personal victory for some reason. Keep doing what you love, it’s an inspiration to everyone

  • Jonathan A

    Fantastic write up man!! I had an “oh shit” moment reading this too, lol.

    Congratulations dude, can’t wait to see what happens.

  • Untld

    Congrats homie, ive been huge fan of this site from the day i stumbled upon it, keep up the good work

  • Christine

    Awwwww man, I read the first page before “hit the jump” and I got a really sinking, sad feeling. I’m a white girl who has your blog as my home page (and my teammates have subsequently done the same by my recommendation) Soooo happy I kept reading, keep on the home page!

  • siegZ

    Jacob, I remember you telling me you were in talks with Complex about a job and I’m so happy to hear it worked out for you. This sounds like a dream job for most dedicated music bloggers and I wanted to wish you the best of luck and also let you know how envious I am that you landed a job that allows you to continue to blog. Congrats Confusion!

  • Devon

    Congrats!! You’re posts are both hilarious and insightful. You definitely deserve this!

  • Scott

    Congrats, Con. It’s weird that I’m genuinely happy for a blogger right now, but you’ve been responsible for so much good music in my life. Happy for you

  • Gee

    And here I am panicking over my final exam tomorrow, cramming and worrying about my future….on P&P like an idiot/longtime-fan.


  • thedopeness

    Congrats Con, that’s amazing. and it’s most definitely great news for all of us!

  • Dylan

    congrats bro

  • Mic

    damn good to see your growth. You caught a crazy ass break that most would commit a serious crime for #winning

  • Harris

    congrats con, you deserve it. can’t wait to see what the future holds for p&p

  •!/JVilz120 jose

    confusion, congratu-fucking-lations, i remember when i first started coming on this site, it was just you, and i remember the earlier posts with no comments on them. and i’ve coming to this site everyday for years. i slowly saw the retweets and facbeook sharing numbers go up and more comments on posts. also appreciated it when you played my Lisztomani Remix on the Thanksgiving post. since you put up that complex network partnership i knew this site was going places. you worked really hard and put alot of time into this, and you deserve it all. good luck brother and keep on trucking.

  • facebside

    Congrats man, i follow P&P from belgium and i dream to have the same situation. Keep it going and take care man. P&P for life

  • antoine

    From a random blogspot to this, what a success story.

    Write a book.

  • devin

    thats insane, congrats!

  • We Plug GOOD Music

    CONGRATULATIONS TOP FELLA!!! YOU DESERVE THIS! P&P IS THE BIZNIZZ!!! IF ever I’m in NY, lunch on you at the complex office – how sick is that???

    Stay UP

  • iamtom

    Con, you deserve all the love you’re getting on here and congrats for all the work paying off. From the awesome music to the honest blogging, it makes this site so unique from the rest, and I’m so glad you can continue doing what you’re great at!

    Keep it up man.

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  • Peter

    I love this website and it makes me feel better to know that the person behind it has huge passion to the work that they’re doing.

    Keep it up because I look forward to reading and listening to more top posts.

  • Nick

    Love it, congrats. Keep doin what you love.

  • Rebecca

    This is amazing! Congratulations. Can’t wait to see this blog get even better!

  • Pancakes

    Does this mean Kayla gets a promotion?

  • Midas

    P&P up

  • Confusion

    P&P UP!

  • Jimi

    Congrats Man, that’s soo tight, just keep doing what you do, you’re running my favorite music page in the world!

  • J

    the best thing you could’ve ever told us. A HUGE congrats to you!! Does this mean we can finally get t-shirts?

  • Arun

    I’ll admit when I first read this post about you selling the blog I got a little disappointed. After I hit the jump button and read onwards….not disappointed at all.

    Congrats man! Getting paid to work on your passion is the best job in the world.

    Good luck!

  • Chopz

    Congrats, Con! I’ve been following just before you signed Frank Ramz to P&P and I’d just like to say I’m happy that you get to do what you love and get paid for it! You certainly deserve it after all the hard work you’ve been putting in these past few years.

    Since you’ll have a little more money in your pocket to play around with, I’ve a proposal for you: S&S – Shirts & Stickers

    Much love from the west coast!

  • Confusion

    Definitely gonna get on those shirts and stickers soon. I’ve been meaning to do stickers for a looong time.

  • GB

    keep up the good work bro, we’re all happy for u.

  • http://mostlyjunkfood Raj

    mann thats awesome. I love blogging and hope I can do it as a full time job like you. keep up all the hard work

  • hunter

    Congratulations! This is an incredible site.

  • Dassic

    Started a new job and couldn’t check this place for a couple weeks. So happy for you man, the success of others is always satisfying, especially when they deserve it. Stay true and kill it so the rest of us can still get some real music.

  • jay

    Not impressed – you scared me with the first part.

    Fucking elated for you, I remember being on the site way back, and being genuinely worried when there’d be no post for a few days, thinking that finally you’d given it up just for you to come back the next day with some more gold.

    Can’t describe how proud I am, it’s no joke when I say P&P was, more or less, my musical education for 2 or so years. Keep it up, you deserve it and thanks.

  • Aaron

    Con, i’ve been a fan of this blog for over 2 years now, i feel like i have become a good friend of yours, i check this everyday, it is the only blog i literally check everyday, you really do deserve this, congratulations Confusion, keep up the good work, keep promoting artists and most importantly keep the level of respect you have for your readers, i’m very happy for you. I look forward to seeing the future of what P&P may become…

  • julia

    Congratulations, incredibly well deserved. I’ve been reading the site since 09, it’s been wonderful seeing the humble evolution.

  • scotty

    Awesome Cons. I visit a few blogs and this is still one of my faves. I never reply to any blogs but i simply can’t not say congrats.

    Looking forward to the future of P&P!

  • scotty

    Awesome Cons.
    I read a bunch of blogs but this is still a fave of mine. I don’t usually post on any blogs but i had to with this.

    P&P UP!

  • Ganyonero

    Good to hear P&P’s going place been reading this everyday for about 3 yrs now and its well deserved. Best of luck.

  • Taylor

    congrats, you deserve it all! great fuckin site can’t wait to see what’s to come

  • Drake

    Congrats Confusion. Your site is always my first music blogging spot of choice and I’ve been coming back every week for over 3 years now. Keep up the great work and I’m sure things will reach new highs!

  • Mona

    Congratulations Confusion! I have been following you for over two years and when I read this post – just for a second – I had a lump in my throat. It makes me very happy to see something great happen to someone who deserves it. Thanks for music and the honesty, and we can’t wait to see what you do next.

  • fonzilla

    congrats confusion… been a fan of this blog for over 3 years. Its just gotten better over time. thanks for the music brotha

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  • larl

    THANK GOD! i don’w know how I’d get the music I LOVE without you!!

  • dj lil’ elle

    damn Confusion, just read this post. MAD props to you. couldn’t have happened to a better dude. live the dream, you deserve it homie. you put all that work in over the years for a reason! now, come visit me in the bay and get me a job homie ;) jk

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