Watch Kanye West Talk About Early Influences and Meeting Michael Jackson

Kanye West stopped by Hot 97 to do an interview for the Juan Epstein podcast, but before that drops in full we get this 10-minute preview, in which Kanye talks about his early influences, working with Dilla, and meeting Michael Jackson. The conversation steers clear of the gossip, so if you’re more interested in Kanye for his music than for the drama surrounding him, watch the video above.

“Michael Jackson told me I could sing. Fuck all y’all!”

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For more of the personal stuff, watch Kanye speak about Kim, being a father, and more with Hot 97′s Angie Martinez below: