You don't do many interviews and you seem to try and keep a fairly low profile. Why is that? I don’t really do every interview that’s put in front of me, if anything I’m kind of like "uuuuughhhhhh another interview." I’m deciding, do I really want to do this? Do I really want to talk about this? But that’s just because, like, to explain sometimes completely takes away from the purpose of creating music, you know what I mean?
Yes. So why do you make music? Why do I make music? I make music because I was instantly fascinated by how much was made by computers, first and foremost. I was never really interested in being in a band, even though in my early teens I really wanted an electric guitar. But I didn’t want to play in a band. Then I saw a drum and bass producer making music on a computer when I was really young and from that moment, because I was into computers, I wanted to see how it was possible to make emotions with a computer.
I think that’s always what I’ve looked to do. To create emotional things, expressions, through the use of the computer.
I think that’s always what I’ve looked to do. To create emotional things, expressions, through the use of the computer. But, sort of having it 50/50, so you can't really hear the computer mechanics in the music and there’s a little bit of me in the music. I’ve always been interested in being an artist, I used to draw, and for me, making music is sort of the 23rd century equivalent of being an artist. When I say artist I mean like, painters like Van Gough and Picasso or whatever. If computers were in existence and people could make music they would have certainly started to make music, you know?
That’s sort of the way that I see it. I think people are so bombarded with images and pictures these days that the power of music is... I like to let people's imaginations just run with it. I have no expectations, which kind of answers your previous question.
Yes it does. You’re not only interested by techno or drum and bass or electronic music, you seem to have developed a strong sense of how hip-hop plays into your work in this album. What are your hip-hop influences? When I got my first Walkman, the first tapes I was listening to were hip-hop tapes.
Like what? I was mainly into gangster stuff. Gangster related hip-hop. NWA and that sort of thing really—Californian hip-hop, LA hip-hop, DJ Screw... I’m not mad into current hip-hop or anything like that. The low-fi texture of the sound is what I’m going back to because I don’t have those tapes anymore and I don’t remember half the artists that I was listening to at that time. A lot of the music or the tapes I was receiving came from my older cousin who was giving them to me, so it was just a question of listening and disappearing into their world.
So, is this a culmination for you? Are you done with music? No, ummm, I’m not done with music at all, but I’m very sort of... I go with how I feel and sometimes I’m not into making anything, you know?
I’m not really the sort who’s like up first thing in the morning, jump in the studio, do 50 beats today. I’m just not that person. I’m literally lulling around and sort of out and about and I come back and look at the equipment and pick up a book or something like that, then I put the book down and look at the equipment again, then hoover the house. And then I might just get something up and have a listen to it and see if anything materializes and if it does I’ll listen to it for the rest of the day. Things just build up and build up and your memory builds different strands and a concept starts to build and formulate and from there you just get a forward momentum I guess. That’s sort of my approach to it.
Things just build up and build up and your memory builds different strands and a concept starts to build and formulate and from there you just get a forward momentum
Are there any forthcoming releases on [Actress' label] Werkdiscs? Are you putting things out after this? By other artists, definitely. I’ll always be working, I’m sure. I have no idea in what form but I’m sure there will be something. That’s what I do. I don’t do anything else. If that’s it then I’m basically down at the job center getting a job. [laughs]
So, really it's kind of a continuation and I think the attitude in relation to Ghettoville is a frozen moment in time, people are only experiencing it now but it was all done for me six months ago, or before that. There’s a big time difference for me. I’ve been making stuff since then and will continue to, whether it gets released or not is another question. I don’t have to release anything, I think I’ve done enough work to, not sit back or anything, but enough to at least be able to look at it objectively for a while before I decide what I want to do next.
So does that mean you didn’t really trash all your equipment or delete your files? Or did you really do that? No, I do do that, I have always done that.
Is that like a creative destruction process? Yeah, a little of that, and I just don’t want any remnants, it’s a purification sort of thing. Its not like I do this, every six months or something like that! I’ve probably done it three times in the space of ten years, and that comes from having hard drives be completely wiped away, so you’re desensitized the idea of losing something. You’re not losing anything because it’s already been made, its just not there for other people to enjoy, or not enjoy. [laughs]
That for me is what reclaims the joy in making, making, making the stuff in the first place.
Well that’s beautiful. Is there anything else you want to share about where you’re at? No, no, that’s it really it, I enjoyed the questions you asked me.
I really enjoyed the interview. Wait, last question, do you still go out? Do you still go to clubs? It depends who’s playing, if I have friends playing I’ll go and show my face—not as a, sort of, not how I used to go out. Not on a Friday or Saturday and then be suffering horribly on Sunday. Its not like that anymore, no.
You’re over it? I don’t know if I’m over it, but the landscape of things kind of changed. It’s like, there’s a pure adrenaline thing. I was the person on the dance floor going for it, then I was the person lingering, that’s a bit difficult these days to be honest. I got my mates and I go to different places that aren’t a part of the industry, off-industry and that can get a bit tedious and I like to enjoy people and shows, it’s just different.
But you think the underground still exists? Yeah, my answer to that is that I think it still exists.