In recent times, there has been a giant black hole where all the rockstars used to be. Rappers seem to be the closest thing we have, and the guys who are making popular rock are often, as The Black Keys pointed out, the worst at it. There’s still plenty of good rock music, but it’s all bubbling under the surface.

Jack White is one of the few who’s doing it right and getting attention for it. He’s become a larger-than-life figure over the years, and it’s made him one of the few rockers out there to be able to get popular and still maintain his cool. With the announcement of finally going solo with Blunderbuss, Jack White sat down with NPR to talk about the making of this album, why he chose to go with a major label instead of releasing it himself, and what it’s like to be in control. Watch the entire interview below.

“I came up from growing up with a lot of Catholic guilt, a lot of punk rock, hipster guilt in the later years where I think people have thrown a lot of things on me. Where I always felt like I’m not supposed to tell the horn section what to play or I don’t want to come off egotistical or like a control freak to tell a piano player to change the rhythm to waltz time now because it will make this thing happen. But now I’m in a position where I own the studio and the people who come in to work on music. They want to make something beautiful happen and somebody needs to direct it, and I feel like … forget all that guilt.”