Patrick Carney of The Black Keys recently dropped by skateboarding legend Tony Hawk’s radio show, and the two discssed their shared love for Devo. Carney revealed a story from his teenage years about how he once stalked Mark Mothersbaugh of the new wave band. See? Rockstars were weird at one point too, so don’t be too ashamed of that Patrick Carney shrine in your closet. Watch the interview below.