An interesting thing happened when Kendrick Lamar dropped his “Control” verse. While those tuned into the music world obviously understood the magnitude of what had happened, it became clear that as the waves of media who covered it multiplied, we weren’t the only ones. Outlets who don’t usually pick up stories about hip-hop, especially those not about the “mainstream” rappers, were reporting on Kendrick’s verse. With a few bars Kendrick had caught the attention of not just the music world, but the entire pop culture realm. Considering this, a show like Chelsea Lately-where Kendrick would be an interview guest and not a musical one-no longer seems odd. It fits with the trajectory that Kendrick’s career has suddenly taken. And if you’re skeptical of that, just listen to the applause he gets when he walks out.

While there, host Chelsea Handler asked him about his VMA performance and his take on Miley Cyrus’ antics, his “Control” verse, his family and his sex life (it’s Chelsea, so this isn’t surprising). Also Chelsea calls Kendrick a “cute little nugget,” which is enough reason to watch the interview in itself. Check out a replay of his appearance above.