In a recent interview, T-pain said that he thinks there are very few people who understand how to properly use auto-tune and Kanye West isn’t one of them. But don’t think T-Pain is taking shots at Kanye, because he’s not. He went on to say that auto-tune is not meant to be a crutch, but a tool. So you have to try to sing with it rather than using it to correct your voice.

Watch T-Pain’s full explanation above.

UPDATE: Thanks to NPR, we now have this video of T-Pain performing a medley of his hits (without any auto-tune) as part of their Tiny Desk concert series. Check it out below.